Most issuers push back on OKX-ICE stock tokens
- About 50 of 62 companies on OKX and ICE’s proposed stock-token list have objected.
- Issuers cite unresolved questions about shareholder rights and control, not necessarily tokenization itself.
Nvidia, Costco, Nike and Micron are among the companies objecting to a proposed OKX and Intercontinental Exchange marketplace for tokenized U.S. stocks. By Nov. 2, a tally cited by Bitcoin And put the number at about 50 of the 62 companies initially selected. Earlier tallies were lower: 33 objections were reported on Oct. 28 and 38 the next day.
The proposed venue would let investors trade digital versions of shares around the clock and settle using stablecoins. It is a separate project from the Depository Trust and Clearing Corporation’s on-chain securities service. The OKX-ICE plan is being developed under a five-year SEC innovation exemption, which gives companies 30 days to ask that their shares be removed. The deadline for companies notified on Oct. 4 was approaching around Nov. 3.
The objections do not necessarily amount to a rejection of tokenization. David Bennett, speaking on Bitcoin And, said companies may be weighing how tokens handle voting rights and dividends, as well as intellectual-property concerns and the effects of trading outside regular market hours. JPMorgan, an early objector, has said it sees potential in the technology but wants to examine how its shares would be represented and traded.
Bankless’s host argued that regulated, identity-verified access could give issuers more investors, liquidity and trading venues. The pushback shows the unresolved condition for that pitch: companies still want a say in where and how their shares trade. An issuer missing from the objection list, the show noted, has not necessarily endorsed the plan.
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BTCPay Served | Bitcoin News • Nov 2
- Nvidia, Costco, Nike, and other issuers objected to OKX and ICE's proposed tokenized-stock venue, which would allow round-the-clock trading and stablecoin settlement. David Bennett said companies may be weighing voting rights, dividends, and intellectual-property concerns; an objection does not necessarily reject tokenization itself.
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Custody (4)
- Binance reopened withdrawals in stages after the theft, reporting that company funds had restored 95% of affected assets; the remaining 5% was held in illiquid tokens. Its October 31 proof-of-reserves snapshot included a zero-knowledge verifier, with another token snapshot planned for November 4.
- The FBI attributed the Binance theft to North Korea, while the Secret Service worked with Circle and Tether to freeze funds; roughly $3 billion remained unfrozen. Bitcoin fell about 5% below $77,000, and investigators tracked activity across 10 blockchains.
- Mercado Bitcoin suspended deposits and withdrawals after a security incident, saying it contained the breach and that customers lost no funds or data. Hypernative estimated suspicious transfers above $40 million, which the exchange did not confirm; Tether froze linked funds.
- David Bennett argued that exchange and server breaches strengthen the case for self-custody, while distinguishing compromised infrastructure from Bitcoin's security. He cited a CoinKite firmware update that could revert wallet setup to software randomness and warned that tampered reseller devices can expose hardware-wallet seeds.
Regulation (1)
- CFTC chair Michael Selig used the Binance theft to argue for federal oversight of offshore crypto exchanges, saying U.S. registration would bring cybersecurity safeguards. Binance later said the breach involved more than one engineer's permissions, while David Bennett questioned whether the North Korea attribution could serve a regulatory agenda.
Safety (1)
- The attack used Ethereum's EIP-7702 feature and 50 presigned authorizations to turn a Binance hot wallet into a sweeper; TRM Labs pointed to compromised signing infrastructure rather than a flaw in Ethereum. Selig said faster transfers and mixers such as Tornado Cash complicate tracing.
Open Source (1)
- BTC Pay Server urged operators to shut down instances after reports that attackers swept hot wallets; the project said reports appeared to involve versions older than 2.4.2, but had not confirmed newer versions were safe. The attacker gained administrator access by an unknown route.
Markets (1)
- Oil and gasoline prices fell sharply while precious metals mostly rose; U.S. stock indexes were mixed to higher. Coffee led the reported agricultural gain, while soybeans and lean hogs fell.
BTC Markets (2)
- Bitcoin traded below $77,000, with the host reporting fees of 5 sats per vbyte for high priority and 3 for low priority. Hash rate stood above one zettahash per second, and the reported supply was just over 20.1 million BTC.
- Strategy repurchased more STRC preferred shares than the Bitcoin it bought that week, while also raising cash through MSTR share sales. Japan's Metaplanet separately announced a common-share buyback equivalent to about 7.1% of its issued shares.
Agents (5)
- GenLayer's Internet Court uses randomly selected juries of AI agents to decide contract disputes, with appeals expanding from small panels toward as many as 1,500 models. CEO Albert Castanella said decisions usually reach finality within 30 minutes, while the network was processing about 12,000 decisions daily in beta.
- GenLayer began as a proposal for decentralized Wikipedia and now assesses user-submitted photos and payments for Collective Memory, while Argue.fun uses AI debates to resolve betting questions. Castanella said AI judgment remains unreliable for deepfake detection and property-boundary disputes, and users can still appeal decisions to people.
- AI dispute systems face risks from immature judgments and training-data bias; an MIT paper also describes representational convergence, the possibility that models from different firms will converge toward similar views. Castanella disputed that prediction, expecting more models from more countries and teams.
- GenLayer could shorten prediction-market disputes: a Polymarket market about whether Volodymyr Zelensky would wear a suit resolved first to yes, then flipped to no after appeals. Castanella argued AI juries could decide such cases in minutes, though human courts and other appeal routes would remain available.
- David Bennett cited Adam Curry and Dave Jones discussing AI agents that reserve tables at multiple restaurants, then cancel the unwanted bookings. He predicted restaurants may require deposits or fees for agent-made reservations, and warned that disconnected systems could create costly traps or scams.
Society (1)
- David Bennett praised Mexico for ending its seasonal clock change after U.S. lawmakers appeared likely to abolish daylight saving time; the U.S. proposal ultimately failed. The host also said Reese's Peanut Butter Cups had become excessively sweet and called for a less sugary alternative.
Fifi Finished | Bitcoin News • Oct 29
- Walmart and four other companies objected to having shares offered on the planned OKX-ICE tokenized-stock venue. The SEC process gives companies 30 days to object in writing; David Bennett expects the pushback to spread beyond the 38 companies listed.
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Custody (2)
- David Bennett says Google’s MPC custody system splits signing keys across separate parties, with configurable signing thresholds and policy checks; Google says it cannot access unencrypted shares. Bennett rejects Google as a custodian and suspects the product could precede Google offering direct crypto custody.
- Key theft remains a major wallet risk: reports cited compromised keys in major 2024 thefts and a 2025 gap between AI-linked and other scam proceeds. Google’s MPC targets stolen credentials, while the cited AI and quantum concerns do not establish that either can break Bitcoin signatures today.
Physics (1)
- David Bennett dismisses Alice & Bob’s quantum-computing estimate as premature: the company says a machine with 30,000 physical qubits could break Bitcoin wallet cryptography in just over an hour, but that hardware remains out of reach.
Europe (1)
- Christine Lagarde plans to leave the ECB before her term ends. David Bennett treats the early departure as a possible warning about financial markets, while acknowledging that the transcript offers no explanation for her decision.
Regulation (2)
- France’s Senate advanced automatic exchange of crypto tax data with foreign authorities, building on DAC8 reporting rules. David Bennett objects to exporting French residents’ transaction data; a separate proposal to tax conversions into certain fiat-pegged stablecoins has not become law.
- Utah filed criminal charges against Kalshi and two executives over alleged illegal gambling, while the CFTC claims federal authority over prediction markets. David Bennett backs Utah’s argument that relabeling bets as derivatives does not change their nature.
Fed (1)
- The Fed held rates steady despite two officials favoring a hike. Inflation, Iran-war oil costs, and elevated Treasury yields weighed on markets; traders priced in another hike for December, while Bitcoin barely moved after the decision.
Psychology (2)
- David Bennett argues that constant retirement warnings push investors into frequent portfolio switches, creating tax liabilities with each sale. He says investors once rebalanced annually but now move among Treasuries, AI stocks, and other assets as economic narratives shift.
- David Bennett recounts a Wells Fargo teller arguing that taxes make homes and food possible. He uses the exchange as an example of how ordinary people may credit taxation for goods and services the teller did not specifically connect to government provision.
Markets (1)
- The market snapshot showed energy and metals mostly lower, while sugar and lean hogs rose. US crude remained above $100 per barrel, silver fell more than 2%, and major US equity indexes were mostly down.
BTC Markets (2)
- Bitcoin traded near $81,000 as network hashrate held above one zettahash per second. David Bennett noted low on-chain fees and described network security as rising.
- Strategy shareholders approved daily dividend accrual for four preferred stocks, although payments remain scheduled for business days and rates remain unchanged. The company says more frequent accrual could improve liquidity; David Bennett calls the structure an unnecessary yield product.
History (1)
- David Bennett accepts a listener’s correction that the 1948 King David Hotel bombing should be attributed to Zionist militants, not Israelis as a whole. He argues that a country, its citizens, and its government should be treated as separate categories.
Society (1)
- David Bennett traces pink-and-blue baby clothing to department-store marketing rather than an old custom. He says children commonly wore white for practical washing, then retailers promoted gendered colors and later reversed which color was assigned to each sex.
Mistakes Were Made | Bitcoin News • Oct 28
- JPMorgan Chase, Coca-Cola, Dell, Adobe, Applied Materials, and SanDisk joined objections to the OKX-ICE tokenized-stock plan. CoinDesk counted 33 disclosed objections, up from 26, with 30 of 62 initially proposed companies objecting, about 48%; David Bennett expects more firms to opt out.
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Markets (4)
- David Bennett reports that DTCC launched tokenization for 34 securities, including select Russell 1000 stocks, ETFs, and U.S. Treasuries, representing about $30 trillion in market value. DTCC holds more than $114 trillion in securities at its depository.
- DTCC tokens represent securities held in custody, preserve ownership records with DTC, and can move between registered wallets around the clock. DTCC plans to add Stellar and Circle's ARK blockchain in 2027, while Citi projects tokenized securities could reach $5.5 trillion by 2030.
- Gold fell to $4,053.80 per ounce and silver to $53.71, while palladium also fell; platinum and copper rose. Coffee was the day's biggest agricultural loser, rough rice the biggest gainer, and lean hogs dropped sharply.
- U.S. equity indexes were modestly higher: the S&P 500, Nasdaq, and Dow each gained less than 0.2%, while the S&P mini was also in the green.
Banking (1)
- DTCC says 20 firms have signed up, including Bank of America, Barclays, Citi, Fidelity, JPMorgan, Morgan Stanley, Citadel Securities, State Street, and UBS. Eligible firms can tokenize during business hours, with DTCC targeting processing in 15 minutes or less.
Regulation (2)
- The CFTC sued Utah after Utah challenged Kalshi over alleged illegal gambling, asserting federal authority over prediction-market derivatives. Michael Selig called the CFTC's jurisdiction exclusive; David Bennett argues sports-outcome contracts are bets, while Utah says the platforms evade state gambling laws and taxes.
- The CFTC is investigating whether Polymarket violated its settlement commitment to block U.S. users from its overseas platform. David Bennett says Kalshi can operate in the United States while Polymarket cannot, and rejects classifying sports wagers as derivatives; he sees poker as different because players influence outcomes.
ETFs (1)
- VanEck launched an actively managed ETF combining equities, bonds, real assets, and Bitcoin exposure through a spot Bitcoin ETP rather than direct holdings. The fund targets a 2% Bitcoin allocation, permits 1% to 5%, and VanEck managed $244.1 billion as of September 30.
Fed (1)
- The Federal Open Market Committee held the federal funds target range steady at 3.75% to 4%, according to the statement David Bennett read on air.
Energy (1)
- Energy prices rose: Brent crude reached $115.26 per barrel, WTI $102.57, natural gas $2.82 per thousand cubic feet, and gasoline $3.14 per gallon. Merbon crude was unchanged.
BTC Markets (3)
- Bitcoin traded at $80,690, with the host saying one bitcoin could buy 20 ounces of gold. The network had 67,000 unconfirmed transactions, and hash rate rose to 1.08 zettahashes per second from 1.07 on Monday.
- David Bennett reported that a Bitcoin treasury company could not find or access its bitcoin. The transcript gives no company name, amount, or explanation for the loss of access.
- A man in Missouri admitted a role in a failed plot to kidnap someone for bitcoin, according to David Bennett's brief report; the transcript gives no names or further details.
Safety (1)
- Bithumb was hacked through an employee system as South Korean financial firms faced cyberattacks. David Bennett said the exchange had been hacked before, but gave no details about the incident or its losses.
History (1)
- David Bennett questioned a listener's claim about terrorism and Israel, noting the King David Hotel bombing occurred in 1946 and saying Israel's modern establishment followed World War II. He was unsure of the chronology and said Hiroshima was bombed in 1947.
ROLLUP: Bitcoin to $57K? | Wall Street Bets on Hyperliquid | The Tokenization War | Zcash Drama • Oct 30
- ICE and OKX also planned tokenized stocks for 24-hour trading, but more than 30 issuers sought removal under the SEC innovation exemption’s 30-day objection window. The host argues regulated, KYC-gated access could benefit issuers through more investors, liquidity, and trading venues.
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BTC Markets (5)
- Jason Calacanis predicts Bitcoin will retest $57,000 within 12 months, citing ETF outflows and Bitcoin’s lack of cash flow; the host reads the call as an AI investor’s bearish challenge to Bitcoin.
- Willy Woo’s 10,000 Monte Carlo simulations put Bitcoin’s December 2028 price between $240,000 and $413,000 in the 28th-to-50th-percentile range, with scenarios spanning $116,000 to $1.4 million.
- Alex Thorn says Bitcoin has passed the point in prior halving cycles when bottoms formed, while the host says identical four-year cycles may no longer hold. Michael Nadeau and Thorn point to the 50-week moving average as a key early-bull-market level.
- Bitwise’s 2036 Bitcoin outlook ranges from $131,000 in its bear case to $3.6 million in its bull case, with a $1.6 million base case based on roughly 34% annual growth and Bitcoin taking a share of existing stores of value.
- Michael Saylor bought no Bitcoin during the week discussed after purchases fell from $140 million to roughly $20 million per week. The host also notes Bitcoin ETFs gained about 0.5% in assets over two weeks while Ether ETFs lost 6%, calling the divergence notable.
Fed (1)
- The FOMC held rates unchanged in a 10-to-2 vote, while September PCE inflation reached 3.6% year over year after three months of acceleration. The host links persistent inflation risk to $111 oil and possible renewed conflict with Iran after the midterms.
Macro (1)
- The host cites Michael Howell’s view that consumer confidence better reflects inflation pressure than official readings, with affordability a likely drag; a starter home was described as costing about $600,000 despite a recent one-month confidence rebound.
Markets (3)
- ICE and TradeXYZ plan a CFTC-regulated, U.S. venue for round-the-clock Hyperliquid perpetual futures, pending approval. Stanley Druckenmiller endorsed the venture, Elon Musk retweeted the endorsement, and Hyperliquid rose about 17% on the news.
- Tokenized stock markets can show prices when traditional exchanges are closed, but the hosts disagree over whether on-chain trading led Alphabet’s after-hours decline. They agree current on-chain liquidity is too fragmented, with seven tokenized versions of Google showing different prices.
- Robinhood reported $120 million in quarterly crypto revenue, including about $50 million attributed to Robinhood Chain, but chain revenue later fell to roughly $30,000 a day. Vlad Tenev said Robinhood would increase ecosystem and developer investment; meme-coin traders want activity that generates on-chain revenue.
Protocol (1)
- Zcash diverts 20% of block rewards to grants, split between an appointed committee and coin-holder votes. After Zcash’s price rise pushed the fund to $125 million, critics proposed ending or winding down the allocation because grants spend about $6 million yearly while roughly $68 million flows in.
Agents (1)
- Venice reported more than $1 million in VVV burns for October, funded by subscription fees, 5% of API-credit purchases, and discretionary monthly burns. The host sees buybacks as useful proof that a non-equity token has value, but warns that early companies may create more value by reinvesting revenue in growth.
Stablecoins (1)
- Ethena’s Earn Plus product inside Ethena Pay offers 12% yield on dollars; the host describes it as leveraged ENA rewards and suspects a leveraged basis trade, while noting the risk source needs closer scrutiny.
Models (1)
- The host questions Anthropic’s $1.5 trillion to $2 trillion prospective valuation because AI lab revenues may not remain durable and competitors are numerous. Google search fell below half of revenue for the first time, reinforcing the hosts’ view that AI is reshaping internet use while token prices may eventually commoditize.
