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Bitcoin's $72,000 line tests the bull-cycle story

Nov 15, 2026Summary from 5 podcasts.
  • Bitcoin has lost its 50-week trend line, putting the recovery thesis under pressure.
  • James Check sees sellers tiring, but says $72,000 needs to hold.
  • Other analysts see a possible test near $68,000 or a deeper drop.

Bitcoin’s recovery is facing a test at a level many traders watch. The price fell below its 50-week moving average, the average price over roughly the past year, and the latest quoted market snapshot, on Bitcoin And’s Nov. 13 show, put it at $68,480. That is close to the 200-week average, around $67,000 to $68,000. Bitcoin was still more than 40% below its $126,080 all-time high, Jack Mallers noted on his Nov. 10 show.

The drop has revived a bigger question: is Bitcoin’s familiar boom-and-bust cycle weakening? On Bankless, Ben Cowen’s midterm-year view pointed to a possible test of the 200-week average in the fourth quarter. Michael Nadeau allowed for a dip and rebound, but said a fall below $58,000 would break his model.

Alex Thorn said spending a month below the 50-week average would undermine the early-bull case. Other Bankless hosts noted that Bitcoin lost the same trend line in 2019 and during the 2020 market shock without breaking the 200-week average.

There are signs of stress beyond the chart. Bitcoin ETFs lost $8.5 billion over eight weeks, according to James Check on TFTC, and stablecoin supply, dollar-linked tokens often used to trade crypto, has also contracted. Check put recent redemptions at about $14 billion a month. That points to money leaving crypto markets, not piling up on the sidelines.

But Check sees a market running short of sellers, not one in broad capitulation. He reads Bitcoin’s base between $58,000 and $62,000, followed by a rally to $87,000, as seller exhaustion and then a short squeeze.

He estimates that investors who bought near $87,000 are now selling about $420 million a day, far below the roughly $1.5 billion in daily selling he associates with market bottoms. Meanwhile, he says long-term holders own 75% to 80% of Bitcoin wealth, and holders who bought below $58,000 accounted for less than 1.5% of recently moved coins.

That leaves Check’s recovery case dependent on support holding. He identifies $72,000 as the level Bitcoin needs to reclaim or hold, with the 200-week average near $68,000 as another important test. If support fails, he expects a possible retest in the mid-$60,000s, not a plunge to $45,000; a higher monthly low could, in his view, open a path toward $100,000. Those are scenarios, not guarantees, and the latest price snapshot shows how much pressure the support question is under.

Bankless hosts also said regular weekly purchases did better than trying to time the recent downturn. But that approach still depends on Bitcoin outperforming in 2027 and 2028. For now, the debate is less about whether the price has weakened than about what the weakness means: a pause in recovery, or evidence that Bitcoin’s old cycle is changing.

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#810: Bitcoin Is in the Discount Zone with James Check • Nov 14

  • James Check sees Bitcoin in a reaccumulation zone: he wants $72,000 to hold, with the 200-week average near $68,000. If support fails, he expects a mid-$60,000s retest, not a fall to $45,000; a monthly higher low could set up a move toward $100,000.
  • James Check reads the $58,000 to $62,000 base and rally to $87,000 as seller exhaustion followed by a short squeeze. During the preceding selloff, Bitcoin ETFs shed $8.5 billion in eight weeks and Michael Saylor sold about 6,000 coins; Check compares the base-building to 2019 and 2023.
  • James Check expects Bitcoin ownership to normalize through small institutional allocations rather than requiring sovereign buyers. Marty Bent points to JPMorgan’s allocation recommendation and Morgan Stanley’s low-fee ETF; the latter’s steady inflows suggest long-term holders, though it remains a small share of ETF assets.
  • James Check says stablecoins are spreading dollar access among people in Turkey, Venezuela, Latin America, and Southeast Asia, but their reach beyond developing markets remains unclear. He notes recent redemptions as U.S. officials advance stablecoin rules and seek to integrate the tokens into finance.
  • James Check says 75% to 80% of Bitcoin wealth is held by long-term holders, while recent buyers who chased $87,000 have been the main sellers. He estimates their selling at $420 million a day, far below capitulation lows, and says holders below $58,000 moved less than 1.5% of recent coin volume.
  • James Check says Bitcoin transfer volume is rising even as profit-taking remains subdued, suggesting the network is settling meaningful value. He tracks a 30-day average against the prior year and estimates current transfers at roughly $10 billion daily.
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Elections (1)

  • James Check sees voter backlash as a rejection of incumbents and economic conditions, not necessarily support for the opposition; he points to affordability, higher fuel costs, and war. Marty Bent describes a U.S. blue wave and argues monetary debasement connects economic frustration to Bitcoin.

AI Infrastructure (1)

  • James Check says AI-driven attacks are exposing weaknesses across the internet, from programming languages and servers to credentials, and expects a difficult security transition. He contrasts that exposure with Bitcoin Core's resilience, calling its human-written code exceptionally battle-tested.

Big Tech (1)

  • James Check argues AI could erode business moats, raise security costs, and make today’s concentrated stock-market gains fragile. Marty Bent cites seven stocks driving 60% of S&P 500 returns and says 95% of index companies underperformed; Check rejects Jason Calacanis’s Bitcoin-death-for-AI-trade pitch.

Macro (1)

  • James Check sees no political will for austerity and expects deficit spending to continue as governments protect the existing financial system. He argues fiat debt can be prolonged through creative interventions, while Bitcoin’s case strengthens as the currency system accumulates cracks.

Mining (1)

  • James Check says Bitcoin mining’s strongest models are small entrepreneurial operations using stranded power or miners embedded in grids for load balancing. Public miners moving into AI makes business sense, he argues, while hash rate recovery shows mining equipment can move to operators with better costs.

Agents (1)

  • James Check says AI agents will use the payment method users specify, so Bitcoin use by bots is no automatic catalyst and medium-of-exchange adoption remains decades away. He sees Zcash and Monero privacy technology as valuable but says Bitcoin’s UTXO history and network effects cannot be copied by a fork.

BTC Markets (1)

  • James Check sees Bitcoin’s fixed supply as a long-term advantage over gold, whose supply grows as mining improves and could eventually face space-mined competition. He says less than 900,000 Bitcoin remain to be mined and recommends measuring accumulation against each year’s new issuance.

Adoption (1)

  • James Check recommends answering Bitcoin questions rather than lecturing, and argues that self-custodied money can help people flee hostile countries or escape financial abuse. Marty Bent links Bitcoin to affordability politics; James Check says Australia’s tougher capital-gains treatment of shares, ETFs, and Bitcoin alienated young investors.

Markets (1)

  • James Check says Bitcoin matched a semiconductor ETF’s return from January 1, 2023, through the episode despite Bitcoin’s later downturn, countering claims that AI stocks simply took its gains. He also sees Michael Saylor’s preferred shares as a possible new corporate-finance tool that other companies may copy.

Ten31 Timestamp: Everything's Bigger in Texas • Nov 10

  • Bitcoin closed below its 50-week moving average after seven consecutive weekly closes above it. Alex Thorn's comparison with earlier post-bottom recoveries in 2011 and 2019 found that Bitcoin did not make a lower low after losing the average, though the guest says that pattern may not repeat.
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Elections (1)

  • The guest says the Democratic midterm gains will make it harder for Trump to advance his agenda through Congress, while leaving substantial executive power intact. The guest also describes Democratic-socialist influence in major cities and a Democratic Texas governorship as potentially consequential shifts.

Markets (2)

  • The guest says crowded AI positions amplified the post-election market selloff, with hedge funds cutting teams and strategies. Marty Bent cites a record single-day volume of put options, suggesting investors bought protection after volatility had already hit.
  • The guest warns that AI investment and Treasury-market health are increasingly linked: leveraged hedge funds buy long-dated government debt, but may pull back when volatility forces them to reduce positions. The weak Treasury bid during the equity selloff raised concern about that connection.

AI Infrastructure (3)

  • Texas data-center projects face uncertainty after Governor Hinojosa campaigned against them, although the guest estimates about half of planned capacity should proceed. Local resistance is broader: nearly every ballot measure restricting data-center development passed.
  • The guest argues that data-center construction could continue if developers pay for transmission, distribution, and substations rather than shifting costs to household ratepayers. Democrats could also frame the buildout as skilled-trades employment and use it to strengthen labor-union support.
  • AI-company valuations and fundraising expectations have come down even as demand for compute and model capabilities keep rising. The guest sees continuing economic utility in AI, while Marty Bent points to rising GPU-hour prices as evidence that compute demand remains strong.

Macro (2)

  • Marty Bent cites stronger-than-expected payrolls alongside falling oil prices, while equity markets recovered after the sharp selloff. The guest says the market's limited Treasury bid suggests investors may see AI-driven growth as important to tax receipts and the government's debt burden.
  • The guest argues that blocking data-center construction could weaken growth, tax receipts, and Treasury demand, pushing the United States closer to debt stress and renewed monetary debasement. That chain of risks makes a prolonged buildout stall a potential tailwind for hard assets.

Chips (1)

  • The guest treats the timing of reports about Jensen Huang's personal life as potentially strategic, not as established evidence of a plot. The guest speculates that a leak could increase pressure on Huang to align NVIDIA with U.S. national-security priorities after his opposition to tighter chip export controls.

Iran (1)

  • Marty Bent says J.D. Vance attributed the midterm shift toward Democrats partly to voter anger over the Iran war, its perceived connection to Israel, and higher energy costs. The guest cautions that voters may oppose losing wars more than war itself, and says Trump may have incentives to resist a quick withdrawal.

China (1)

  • The guest says geopolitical competition with China is unlikely to ease after the U.S. midterms: Chinese producers keep exporting chemicals despite losses, while automakers in the U.S. and Germany seek more protection from Chinese electric vehicles. A proposed U.S. vehicle ban had more than 100 House co-sponsors.

Diplomacy (1)

  • Marty Bent says China and Oman called for safe navigation through the Strait of Hormuz, while the guest notes that the conflict's outcome remains uncertain. The guest also flags a Polish dispute over whether central-bank gold should be placed under closer European Central Bank custody, and U.S. sanctions on Canadian businesses.

BTC Markets (2)

  • The guest says AI investment has competed with Bitcoin for marginal capital, as investors favored high-growth technology stocks and expected AI-driven growth to ease debt concerns. If that growth disappoints, the guest argues, reduced competition for capital and renewed concern about sovereign debt could improve Bitcoin's appeal.
  • Marty Bent argues that commoditized AI tokens could still support Bitcoin if inference margins compress and investment shifts away from the labs. The guest adds that rapid automation could disrupt workers with mortgages and student debt, potentially increasing pressure for a new debasement policy or universal income.

Jensen’s Departure, NVIDIA’s succession plan, AI doomer response, and Demis talks RSI | MOONSHOTS #311 (recorded live) • Nov 14

  • Dario Amodei said cancer, Alzheimer’s, heart disease, and mental illness could become relics within a decade. Immad Akhund estimated that AI could identify core disease mechanisms in two to three years, but said translating discoveries into cures could take five to ten years; the hosts emphasized virtual cells and faster trials.
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Big Tech (1)

  • Peter Diamandis said an Outlook outage disrupted his work and cited 100,000 to 130,000 reported user problems. The hosts linked communication failures to cyber risk from agent swarms attacking exposed systems.

Space (2)

  • Peter Diamandis said Starship Flight 15 was scheduled for Friday the 13th, with a booster catch and a Starship catch 22 hours later. He speculated that launches could eventually reach 1,000 or even 10,000 per year.
  • A researcher used Claude to search Vera Rubin Observatory data and identify a candidate dwarf planet, estimated at 590 kilometers wide and roughly twice Pluto’s distance from the Sun. The hosts argued that AI can uncover discoveries already present in archives but missed by human analysis.

Chips (2)

  • Peter Diamandis presented Jensen Huang’s resignation as potentially connected to reported affairs and alleged chip diversion through Singapore to China; Alex Wissner-Gross argued that U.S. officials may have pushed the story to support export controls. Speakers stressed that the allegations were unproven.
  • NVIDIA named CFO Colette Kress interim CEO and Harvey Jones board chair. The hosts said a successor must preserve CUDA and TSMC relationships, investor confidence, and NVIDIA’s role in financing AI companies; Alex Wissner-Gross warned that Jensen-style founder leadership may be hard to replace.

Safety (2)

  • Paul Christiano warned of a high risk of AI takeover within three years, while acknowledging that no quantitative model supports a precise probability. Immad Akhund rejected the takeover framing, pointing instead to cyber and biological risks; Akhund said his own p(doom) had fallen from 50% to 20%.
  • The hosts argued that AI labs should make alignment work concrete and public, with independent oversight and clearer definitions. They debated whether training data should encode shared values, warning that a U.S. national ideological test could resemble the Chinese Communist Party’s required ideological review of public models.

Models (1)

  • Demis Hassabis warned that closed-loop recursive self-improvement without human review could accelerate AGI and produce systems difficult to understand or control. The hosts disagreed on how close labs are to that point, citing automated training, model swarms, and the difficulty of meaningful human oversight at scale.

Enterprise (1)

  • Anthropic launched Claude Whiteboard and Sheets in beta, Claude Data generally, and Claude Meetings for Google Meet; it also added connectors for third-party apps. The hosts saw agents displacing software interfaces, while noting that Microsoft retains distribution, compliance, support, and enterprise permissions.

AI Infrastructure (1)

  • Planet launched an AI app that lets users query a decade of satellite imagery across more than 3,000 layers. Separately, an agent search of public NASA lidar data flagged a possible Mayan site in Mexico; 48 agents screened 1,200 square kilometers, and officials called it an original finding.

History (1)

  • A creator used Fable 5.2 to reconstruct ancient Babylon from historical documents and archaeological plans in eight hours. The hosts described such tools as early steps toward interactive historical worlds and large-scale computational archaeology using accumulated records and imagery.

Labor (1)

  • Immad Akhund said UBI needs to arrive before job displacement and unrest, citing successful prior experiments but warning that some states block local trials. Peter Diamandis predicted federal payments of $3,000 a month if conditions deteriorate, while Alex Wissner-Gross argued AI could also help solve social and political problems.

VC (1)

  • Immad Akhund said NVIDIA often invested 10% to 20% of AI funding rounds and sometimes committed billions to strategic companies; he expects that funding to retreat after Huang’s departure. He argued that investment may shift toward automated wet labs and robotics, while Anthropic’s IPO could add liquidity.

Reasoning (1)

  • The hosts argued that AI may discover concepts humans cannot formulate or verify, while disagreeing over whether advanced models will be alien or increasingly humanlike. Alex Wissner-Gross cited brain-activation decoding research; Immad Akhund said AI could help solve economic and social transitions as well as scientific problems.

Jensen's Wang | Bitcoin News • Nov 13

  • David Bennett's market snapshot put Bitcoin at $68,480, with mining hash rate at 931 exahashes per second and high-priority fees at 5 sats per vbyte. Oil, metals, and equities were mixed or lower despite producer-price inflation coming in below forecasts.
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Regulation (2)

  • David Bennett says Donald Trump nominated two Democrats and two Republicans to fill SEC and CFTC seats. The nominees include former CFTC commissioner Kristen Johnson and SEC veteran Steve Levine; Senate confirmation timing could determine whether the agencies avoid operating with skeleton commissions.
  • The DOJ obtained court authority to seize or restrain more than $1.2 billion from North Korea's Binance heist, after government and private-sector efforts froze about $2.7 billion. Binance says it replaced affected assets from company funds, while the DOJ's court authorization moves frozen funds toward forfeiture.

Big Tech (1)

  • Nvidia employees urged the board to reinstate Jensen Huang after his resignation, with an internal post drawing more than 1,600 comments. Reports alleged relationships with Alice Wong and two Nvidia employees; Attorney General Todd Blanche said the DOJ had not concluded Huang was a Chinese spy.

Open Source (1)

  • David Bennett argues that open-weight AI does not depend on Jensen Huang alone and that decentralized repositories would emerge if major platforms shut down. Bennett sees governments and AI companies as aligned around limiting access to models they cannot control or monetize.

BTC Markets (2)

  • Twenty One Capital reported $1.087 billion in third-quarter net income, driven by $1.093 billion in Bitcoin fair-value gains, while its operating loss was $4.8 million. CEO Rafa Zagury said asset appreciation is not operating earnings; the company is assessing mining, lending, treasury, and energy businesses.
  • MSCI plans to remove Strategy from several stock indexes after November 30, arguing that companies mainly holding financial assets do not belong in operating-company benchmarks. David Bennett says the exclusion could weaken Strategy's share-funded Bitcoin buying, though it does not force a Bitcoin sale.

Privacy (1)

  • France's National Assembly finance committee adopted a proposal requiring residents to report self-custodied crypto holdings worth at least €100,000 at year-end, with penalties up to €10,000 for non-reporting. David Bennett called the rule an intrusion into private wallet ownership.

Digital Sovereignty (1)

  • A listener's Spaces Protocol proposal uses a Bitcoin-anchored naming system to keep contact details discoverable without relying on one social platform or company. The proposal supports multiple network instances and says users can store space-name information directly on Bitcoin if the network is unavailable.

Markets (1)

  • BTCS sold Ether below cost to maintain collateral health on a $64.1 million Aave loan, leaving collateral worth about 155% of its debt. David Bennett argues that volatile crypto collateral makes DeFi borrowing dangerous in unsettled markets and recommends borrowing only a small fraction of the collateral's value.

MSCI Drops MSTR | Bitcoin News • Nov 12

  • Major stablecoin supply contracted by $14.2 billion in 30 days, the sharpest decline since 2022; Glassnode says shrinking supply signals redemptions and cash leaving crypto, while CryptoQuant noted a steep USDT market-cap drop.
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Chips (1)

  • Nvidia said Jensen Huang resigned immediately as CEO, president, and director after 33 years, following reports of two relationships and an independent board investigation; CFO Colette Kress became interim CEO.

Markets (1)

  • David Bennett argues that Nvidia's leadership scandal is exposing fragile market sentiment, not a sudden collapse in chipmaking capacity; he says Bitcoin has become linked to AI spending, interest rates, and Treasury yields.

ETFs (1)

  • MSCI removed Strategy from its USA index effective at the November 30 close, requiring index-tracking funds to sell; David Bennett says the forced sales pressure MSTR shares and could weigh on Bitcoin through Strategy's financing premium.

Regulation (2)

  • MSCI's adopted screen targets companies whose operating assets fall below half of total assets and that fail at least four of five financial ratios; David Bennett says the methodology treats Strategy as an investment vehicle rather than an operating business.
  • Russia authorized exchanges to open organized crypto trading from November 22 after central-bank approval of their rules; non-qualified investors face an annual purchase cap, while qualified investors can buy without a cap after testing.

Banking (1)

  • Deutsche Bank activated Bitcoin custody for institutional and corporate clients, managing wallets and private keys; its supported assets also include USDC, EURC, and EURAU, while the bank did not disclose clients or fees.

BTC Markets (2)

  • Bitcoin traded at $71,650 as commodities were mixed: Brent oil rose, while metals were mostly lower; major US stock indexes edged up, but the S&P mini contract fell.
  • Rumble sold roughly two-thirds of its Bitcoin in the third quarter as its acquired Quake AI cloud unit drove its first adjusted profitable quarter; the company still posted a GAAP loss and its video segment remained unprofitable.

Digital Sovereignty (1)

  • David Bennett describes Spaces Protocol as a decentralized way to claim human-readable names for identities and messaging, with potential to replace DNS records that centralized operators can remove.

Protocol (1)

  • Bitcoin Core disclosed three patched vulnerabilities: Tor connections could inherit trusted-node permissions, a mempool flaw could stop affected miners from building valid blocks until restart, and malicious peers could stall block processing for ten minutes; the advisory reported no attacks.

Payments (1)

  • Square enabled another four million vendors to accept Bitcoin without requiring them to change settings, David Bennett said; he urged customers to check whether participating merchants can take Lightning payments.

ROLLUP: Crypto’s Bull Market on the Brink | Nvidia Turmoil | ETH Is Money | Ethereum’s New Security Shield • Nov 13

  • Bitcoin fell below its 50-week moving average and traded near $72,000, while sentiment reached extreme fear levels. The hosts note that the fear reading was worse than at any point during the early 2023 bull market.
  • Ben Cowen’s midterm-year view points to a possible Bitcoin test of the 200-week average in Q4; Michael Nadeau expects a possible dip and rebound, but says a fall below $58,000 would break his model. Alex Thorn says a month below the 50-week average would undermine the early-bull thesis.
  • Bitcoin was on course for its first two consecutive red yearly candles, though the year was not finished. The hosts note that Bitcoin also broke its 50-week average during the early bull period in 2019 and during the COVID shock in 2020, without breaking the 200-week average.
  • One host says Bitcoin returned only 3% annually over the prior five years, allowing Treasury bills to outperform it. David argues that this may signal Bitcoin is reaching fair value and losing the steep network-growth curve that powered past four-year cycles.
  • The hosts say recurring weekly Bitcoin purchases performed better than trying to time the cycle during the recent downturn. One cautions that the strategy’s success still depends on Bitcoin outperforming in 2027 and 2028.
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Big Tech (1)

  • David says Jensen Huang resigned as NVIDIA CEO after two reported affairs and was pushed out by the board; the hosts question whether the affairs explain the decision. NVIDIA fell sharply as investors faced the company’s importance to AI spending and U.S. markets.

Media (1)

  • David questions why media coverage treated Huang’s affairs as grounds for removal without asking whether the punishment fit the conduct. He speculates that hostility toward AI and closed-source tech power may shape coverage, while saying he does not fully believe the broader conspiracy theories.

China (1)

  • David offers a more conventional explanation for NVIDIA’s turmoil: the company may have sold more chips to China than was publicly understood, possibly through intermediaries in Singapore and Malaysia. He says that would raise questions under the CHIPS Act, unlike the reported affairs.

Markets (2)

  • Ethereum was down about 10% on the week and trading near $2,000, below both its 50-week and 200-week moving averages. The hosts contrast its weak chart with Bitcoin’s, and note that ETH had returned to roughly its price from five years earlier despite reaching an all-time high in between.
  • Zcash sharply repriced after a long flat period and traded well above both its 50-week and 200-week averages. The hosts discuss a possible pullback toward the 50-week average, but one says buying near $750 would be painful.

Protocol (5)

  • Vitalik Buterin says he has decided ETH should be understood as money and a store of value, rather than primarily as a fee-burning asset. He argues that optimizing for fee collection would make Ethereum behave like a corporation, with activist governance and pressure to chase revenue.
  • David argues Vitalik’s support for ETH as a store of value came late, after years of community debate and declining market confidence. The hosts say the position fits Ethereum’s roadmap, but disagree about whether it can still rally the ecosystem around ETH.
  • Phylax lets applications define circuit breakers that Titan Builder enforces during block construction; a transaction that breaks an app’s rule is included but reverts. A vault could, for example, prevent a single transaction from paying out more than half its assets.
  • Phylax’s app-level protections create a tradeoff: applications gain a way to block exploit transactions, while block builders gain a role in enforcing app rules. The hosts say Ethereum’s proposed Fossil upgrade could still force a transaction into a block, after which the app’s rule could make it fail.
  • Phylax has worked with Linea and is expanding to Ethereum mainnet, where Titan Builder produces about half of blocks, as well as projects including Derive and Lighter. One host supports the security tradeoff, arguing that major DeFi exploits do more harm to adoption than this limited compromise to censorship resistance.

Enterprise (2)

  • A former Ethereum Foundation employee is suing after being dismissed days after telling the organization she had cancer. The dispute includes a required mandate with a tongue-in-cheek “seppuku” clause; after employees objected, the Foundation replaced the clause’s written text with an image containing the same language.
  • Hasu argues the Ethereum Foundation’s mandate achieved necessary downsizing, removed employees who opposed its direction, and encouraged ecosystem groups such as ETH Labs to grow independently. The hosts agree the outcome may help ecosystem diversity, but say the process damaged Foundation morale and trust in leadership.

Regulation (2)

  • CFTC-registered exchanges with the required SEC filing can offer U.S.-regulated perpetual futures on individual stocks. Coinbase, Kraken, and Kalshi are among the eligible firms; traditional exchanges and market makers are challenging the expansion in court.
  • IRS Letter 6174 is a voluntary compliance notice telling crypto traders the agency has information about their activity and urging them to review their filings. The hosts say the letter is not an audit and does not require a response, while warning that AI could help the IRS identify reporting errors.

How a Top 100 Hyperliquid Trader Finds the Next Big Trade • Nov 11

  • Cool Crypto describes crypto allocation as a high-risk, high-reward inflection point: cooling AI enthusiasm could redirect risk-seeking capital toward crypto, while career risk may keep institutional allocators cautious. He is weighing whether the next few months favor revenue tokens or store-of-value assets as investors assess the broader market cycle.
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Markets (11)

  • Cool Crypto says top-perps performance comes mainly from avoiding blowups: he rarely uses more than 1x leverage across his portfolio. Crypto dislocations create enough opportunity that staying solvent matters more than catching one huge trade.
  • Cool Crypto says Hyperliquid perps profits have come from repeated hedges around local tops while holding spot, rather than one oversized short. He watches large holders mainly when he already has exposure, since a whale's visible position may hedge risk elsewhere or farm funding.
  • Cool Crypto expects continued demand for tokens with real revenue, but says regulatory pressure could temporarily favor store-of-value assets such as Bitcoin. He sees Ethereum as outside the simple divide between assets that are money and tokens that make money, because its settlement-layer value depends on broad adoption.
  • Cool Crypto sees Zcash as a crowded, sentiment-driven trade whose upside depends on buyers beyond crypto insiders, including wealthy people seeking private money. He agrees that even small allocations could matter, but says the market may already have priced in more of that demand than investors expect.
  • Cool Crypto favors options for expressing a high-conviction Zcash view because they avoid perp liquidation risk through steep drawdowns while preserving leveraged upside. He says spot suits investors willing to hold through volatility, and selling calls can suit holders who think Zcash is temporarily overvalued.
  • Cool Crypto looks for mispriced revenue, buybacks, and durability rather than comparing token multiples at face value. Hyperliquid's USDC treasury yield looks more recurring than trading fees, while technical analysis works best when traders watch widely followed levels and fundamental research finds what the market has missed.
  • Cool Crypto sees Lighter as the stronger three-to-six-month trade and Hyperliquid as the more dependable multi-year hold. Lighter is pursuing US access and regulatory clarity more aggressively, while Hyperliquid is more globally oriented; limited untapped US demand could weaken Lighter's case.
  • Cool Crypto says liquidity is a stronger exchange moat than interface quality or technical features: he still trades mainly on Hyperliquid because larger orders get better fills. Lighter's major-market fills are improving, but Hyperliquid's altcoin liquidity still trails Binance by a wide margin.
  • Cool Crypto says Hyperliquid's buybacks and burns mean token price can rise even if market capitalization stays flat, so price upside is not capped by exchange-company comparisons alone. He still considers much of the easy asymmetry gone and does not expect a straightforward 10x from here.
  • Cool Crypto sees crypto options adoption growing much faster than perps, with new products and structured strategies expanding the market. Derive currently dominates notional and fees, but he expects competition to cut its share even if the total options market grows several-fold.
  • Cool Crypto says options offer more ways to express a view than perps, including volatility and asymmetric price exposure; he uses perps to adjust or hedge options delta. He expects Lighter to launch options sooner than Hyperliquid, whose architecture is less suited to native options, while Derive retains advantages as an options-first exchange.

Regulation (1)

  • Cool Crypto says early Bitcoin mining led him into DeFi, where trading, borrowing, and lending felt like a major step beyond crypto as a store-of-value asset. He later started a fund, misjudged how soon revenue-focused tokens would matter, and chose the Kool-Aid Man profile picture as a joke that stuck.

BTC Markets (1)

  • Cool Crypto says Bitcoin's recognition, predictable supply schedule, and ossified code give it stronger store-of-value credentials than Zcash. Zcash's privacy and quantum-resistance narratives attract interest, but its active development also creates more uncertainty and potential security risk, as the Orchard controversy showed.

Elections, Markets & Bitcoin: What Actually Matters • Nov 10

  • Jack Mallers timestamped Bitcoin at $75,201, with a $1.5 trillion market cap, 40.4% below its $126,080 all-time high set October 6, 2025. The latest mined block was 975,222, and the high was 399 days earlier.
  • Mallers says Bitcoin's past cycles repeatedly combined steep rises with sharp drawdowns, and that bear markets often last about a year while bull markets last longer. He describes the current pattern as a possible climb from the $58,000 low toward $75,000 amid worsening fear, drawing on Michael Sullivan's online-sentiment tracking.
  • Mallers says Bitcoin has held up better against major technology and traditional assets than the prevailing AI-trade narrative suggests. In the comparison he cites, semiconductors had fallen behind Bitcoin since January 2023, and Bitcoin was outperforming gold and the NASDAQ over the preceding months.
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Markets (2)

  • Jack Mallers treats the MOVE index as a gauge of stress in Treasury collateral: more bond volatility constrains leverage and liquidity. He says readings near 130 have prompted intervention, while 70 to 90 is his comfort zone.
  • Mallers says reports alleging that NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang had an affair with a Chinese spy remain speculative, but the story affected markets: NVIDIA fell more than 5% as major U.S. indexes rose that day. He argues the episode exposes the counterparty risk of treating company shares as savings.

Energy (1)

  • Mallers links falling oil prices to lower inflation expectations, Treasury yields, and bond volatility, which he sees as supportive of liquidity. He says oil fell 10.4% in five days, from above $100 to $87, while the 10-year yield had reached 5.28% in October.

Middle East (1)

  • Mallers reads Donald Trump's post-midterm comments about working with Democrats on immigration as a possible signal of a more restrained approach to the Iran conflict. He argues that any easing of the conflict could lower oil prices, but says his explanation is a guess, not inside knowledge.

Europe (1)

  • Mallers says the euro remains 5% lower against the yen than in the summer, while the French-German 10-year government-debt spread has eased from a 165-basis-point peak. He links French-market stress to foreign ownership and Japan's need to repatriate capital.

Elections (2)

  • Mallers attributes the Republican midterm loss to voter anger over affordability, inflation, and the Iran war, and describes the result as a protest vote. He argues that whichever party governs will face pressure because monetary and fiscal problems cannot be solved without someone absorbing losses.
  • Mallers argues that repeated swings between parties will not fix affordability or the money system, and that people should prioritize self-responsibility: earn more than they spend, save, and control their own choices. He cites Quinn's forecast of political gridlock after the 2026 midterms and a louder populist backlash in 2028.

Banking (1)

  • Mallers argues that federal commitments already exceed tax receipts: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Treasury interest, and veterans' benefits together outstrip $5.4 trillion in receipts. He cites faster growth in these obligations than in tax revenue and says policymakers must choose between money creation and defaults or spending cuts.

Psychology (1)

  • Mallers cites a Bloomberg opinion piece reporting that 40% of Americans expect their finances to worsen within a year, above every comparison point listed. He uses the result to explain why public sentiment can feel worse than market prices suggest.

BTC Markets (1)

  • Mallers cites Macroscope's argument that a major money-printing response may eventually arrive and that investors should plan ahead for inflation protection. Macroscope points to gold's 2008 decline before its later rally, noting that gold bottomed before stocks; Mallers says Bitcoin could also serve as protection.

Protocol (1)

  • Mallers criticizes altcoins as attempts to monetize interest in technology through shifting narratives, and rejects Ethereum's proposed store-of-value positioning. He says Ethereum's earlier pitches included smart contracts, NFTs, ICOs, and stablecoins, while its price in Bitcoin terms continued to fall.

Custody (1)

  • Mallers says Strike is adding trusted withdrawal addresses with a five-day delay before a new address can be used, intended to limit account takeovers and coercive withdrawals. He lists existing protections including passkeys, withdrawal 2FA, custom limits, anti-phishing codes, remote session controls, and free withdrawals to self-custody.