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Institutions push to freeze Satoshi's coins

Wednesday, April 22, 2026 · from 5 podcasts
  • BlackRock and Coinbase back a 2029 quantum fork that could freeze Satoshi’s 1M BTC.
  • Critics call BIP 361 a precedent for confiscation, risking Bitcoin’s core immutability.
  • Wall Street’s influence shifts power from users to ETF custodians.

BlackRock and Coinbase are pushing Bitcoin toward a 2029 deadline for quantum resistance, demanding protocol changes that could freeze early-mined coins - including Satoshi Nakamoto’s untouched stash. The proposal, centered on BIP 361, would invalidate legacy ECDSA signatures unless migrated to quantum-resistant forms, targeting an estimated 1.7 million BTC in vulnerable addresses.

Jameson Lopp and co-authors introduced the BIP as a defensive measure, arguing that a single quantum actor cracking Satoshi’s keys could trigger a market collapse. A rescue mechanism using zero-knowledge proofs would allow late migration, but critics see the entire framework as authoritarian. On Rabbit Hole Recap, Marty Bent called it "double-speak for stealing coins." Andreas M. Antonopoulos, echoing across multiple shows, warns that freezing assets to prevent theft still violates the principle of absolute ownership.

"Normalizing the idea that coins can be frozen 'for your own good' is more dangerous than the quantum threat itself."

- Amaury Séchet, Bitcoin Takeover Podcast

The institutional motive is clear: ETF issuers like BlackRock must reassure risk-averse investors. But their economic weight now dictates protocol outcomes. As Rob Hamilton noted on What Bitcoin Did, the chain blessed by Wall Street will become the de facto Bitcoin, regardless of grassroots consensus. Exchange-listed liquidity and custodial holdings give these entities gravitational pull that can starve alternative chains of value.

This marks a philosophical rupture. The cypherpunk ideal - self-custody, unconfiscable money, resistance to authority - is being sidelined by a financialized vision. Matt Odell argues that if users don’t hold their keys, they don’t vote. And most ETF holders don’t. Michael Saylor’s $2.7B buying spree via MicroStrategy’s dividend product exemplifies this trend: massive demand, but centralized, synthetic, and layered with counterparty risk.

"They’re not joining a rebellion. They’re buying a financial product."

- Rob Hamilton, What Bitcoin Did

The irony is stark. While the U.S. government mobilizes rare earth deals and militarizes supply chains to sustain dollar hegemony, Wall Street now seeks to impose its own form of central planning on Bitcoin. The same institutions that failed to stop the 2008 crisis now demand control over the network’s cryptographic future - under the banner of safety.

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Should Satoshi’s Coins Be Frozen? | Rob HamiltonApr 21

  • Rob Hamilton frames Bitcoin as a personal "Hero's Journey" for many, starting with a refusal of the call to adventure, then finding mentors like Andreas Antonopoulos or Michael Saylor, and navigating tests like holding through volatility.
  • Danny Knowles observes Bitcoin's shift from a counterculture movement prioritizing self-custody and running nodes before 2021 to an institutional adoption phase where buying ETFs or using brokers is more common.
  • Rob Hamilton reports on recent discussions at the Op Next conference about quantum computing threats to Bitcoin, particularly concerning freezing Satoshi's coins due to potential vulnerability.
  • Danny Knowles explains that a cryptographically relevant quantum computer could steal coins from exposed public keys, affecting addresses with a viewable public key on-chain, such as Satoshi's coins and Taproot addresses.
  • Danny Knowles strongly opposes freezing Satoshi's coins, arguing it constitutes theft and violates Bitcoin's fundamental property rights, asserting that the long-term value of an unfrozen chain is superior despite short-term market dumps.
  • Danny Knowles suggests freezing Satoshi's coins could coerce Satoshi, if alive, into revealing themselves or moving funds against their assumed intent, potentially violating the network's property rights.
  • Rob Hamilton explains that exchanges face significant operational complexity in managing chain splits, needing to double infrastructure for two networks and reconcile the "BTC" ticker, while self-custody allows users to express their economic opinion.
  • Rob Hamilton promotes Anchorwatch, which offers insured and uninsured Bitcoin custody, including multi-institutional custody, and is developing an API for businesses to integrate their wallet management software.
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Philosophy (1)

  • Rob Hamilton explains Joseph Campbell popularized the "Hero's Journey" story arc, exemplified by Star Wars or Lord of the Rings, involving a call to adventure, mentors, challenges, and returning a treasure to the community.

Adoption (1)

  • Rob Hamilton argues institutional adoption was an "inevitable" next phase for Bitcoin's success, moving beyond niche uses like darknet markets, although new cohorts entering Bitcoin have different perspectives and values.

Protocol (4)

  • Rob Hamilton emphasizes that quantum computers have only factored numbers up to 15, while Bitcoin's security relies on numbers up to 2^256, indicating a massive gap requiring significant engineering breakthroughs.
  • Rob Hamilton notes some argue for freezing Satoshi's coins (BIP 361) to prevent theft by future quantum attackers, citing potential institutional unwillingness to support a split and the desire to remove supply FUD.
  • Jonas Nick of Blockstream has developed post-quantum signing algorithms like "shrinks and shrimps" that are hash-based, offering security against quantum attacks but resulting in significantly larger transaction signatures and potentially reduced transactions per second.
  • Rob Hamilton highlights Robin Linus's "Binoash" paper, which describes a method to create quantum-proof Bitcoin transactions *today* without a protocol upgrade, though these transactions are large (10 KB) and not standard for mempool propagation.

Mining (1)

  • Rob Hamilton points out that Satoshi's initial mining was necessary for Bitcoin's early network propagation, as fewer than 10 computers were mining for the first year, with the first positive difficulty adjustment occurring in December 2009.

Ten31 Timestamp: The Empire Strikes BackApr 20

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Other (19)

  • The co-host notes that US foreign policy increasingly exhibits characteristics of an 'imperial' power, reflecting traits of a declining great power rather than a republic, similar to historical empires.
  • Marty Bent observes that despite geopolitical volatility, WTI crude oil prices have fallen to $86 per barrel, suggesting a potential de-escalation in Middle East tensions and a calming effect on markets.
  • The co-host highlights how daily headlines regarding geopolitical events, like the Middle East conflict, can rapidly shift from ceasefire to blockade and back, rendering them unreliable for market participants.
  • Marty Bent reports Bitcoin surged to $78,000 on March 17th and has diverged from software stocks over the last month, with Bitcoin up 6% while software stocks declined by 1%.
  • The co-host suggests the current market positioning indicates a desire for upward movement, with stocks at all-time highs and Bitcoin holding strong despite significant US military actions, providing the administration leverage.
  • The co-host posits that US administration calculus prioritizes economic damage to China over elevated domestic gas prices, framing this as a strategic move in a broader meta-war between the two superpowers.
  • The co-host identifies a trend of US 'imperial nationalization and industrialization,' citing a federal investment in Intel and a new partnership with Indonesia, strategically important for its influence over the Strait of Malacca.
  • Marty Bent notes Mark Carney's critical comments regarding US-Canada relations, suggesting his strategic placement as a 'Davos class economic actor' in Canada serves incumbent power structures.
  • The co-host highlights US Rare Earths' $2.8 billion acquisition of Cerro Verde Group, aiming to become the global leader in rare earth metals critical for AI and advanced military applications.
  • The Cerro Verde deal includes a major financing package from the government-aligned Development Finance Corporation and a 15-year, 100% off-take agreement with price floors, demonstrating explicit industrial policy.
  • The co-host argues the de-dollarization narrative is currently challenged, citing Norway's sovereign wealth fund's plan to maintain US asset holdings and Gulf states issuing dollar-denominated bonds to shore up finances.
  • The co-host suggests an imperial US could delay de-dollarization by leveraging alliances and maritime control points to create captive buyers of dollar-linked assets, even if the dollar's long-term dominance is questioned.
  • The co-host contends that regardless of the dollar's fate, increased dollar claims issuance by the US will ultimately benefit Bitcoin as the scarcest asset, especially as nations prioritize sovereign self-custody.
  • Marty Bent highlights Michael Saylor's 'Stretch' preferred stock option from MicroStrategy as a memetically powerful new conduit for institutional capital to flow into Bitcoin.
  • The co-host and Marty Bent discuss MicroStrategy's rapid Bitcoin acquisition through Stretch, nearing 100,000 BTC, which contributes to their total reported holdings of 820,000 BTC.
  • Marty Bent warns about the risks of DeFi protocols building derivatives on Stretch, citing recent hacks that drained multiple DeFi protocols due to insecure virtual machines and smart contracts.
  • Marty Bent reports on an institutional panel at the Up Next conference, where BlackRock, Coinbase, and Anchorage Digital indicated investors' quantum risk concerns, with a goal to make Bitcoin quantum-resistant by 2029.
  • Marty Bent criticizes institutions for appealing to NIST's authority on quantum resistance, recalling Satoshi Nakamoto chose cryptographic libraries outside NIST recommendations due to concerns about embedded backdoors.
  • The co-host advises against making Bitcoin protocol decisions based on short-term price concerns, warning that such 'action bias' optimizes for poor long-term stability and sustainability for any system.

S17 E19: Deadalnix (Amaury Séchet) on Forking Bitcoin & EcashApr 18

  • Quantum security proposals create a dangerous precedent for seizing inactive Bitcoin UTXOs.
  • Small blocks force users back into a fractional reserve banking system.
  • Adding Avalanche consensus to Proof of Work stops 51% attacks.

RABBIT HOLE RECAP #405: STRETCH YOUR CHEEKS FOR THE BITCOIN BULLApr 17

  • MicroStrategy raised roughly $2.1 billion via STRiPS this week, which Zach notes could be used to buy about 27,200 Bitcoin at current prices.
  • MicroStrategy's STRiPS currently trades at a slight discount, priced at $99.21 against its $100 par value, with a market cap of roughly $6.37 billion. Matt notes the product's dividend rate has climbed from its initial 9% to about 11.5%.
  • Michael Saylor proposed making STRiPS dividend payments semi-monthly instead of monthly, a change that would need shareholder approval. The hosts speculate this could smooth out the buying pressure around dividend dates.
  • Matt argues the risk in STRiPS is layered and underappreciated, involving DeFi protocols, other public companies using it as a treasury asset, and the potential for a negative feedback loop if Bitcoin's price falls and MicroStrategy must sell shares to fund dividends.
  • At the OP_NEXT conference, institutional panelists from Coinbase and BlackRock expressed concern that investor uncertainty around Bitcoin's quantum resistance could limit capital inflows, a claim Marty finds ironic given Bitcoin's recent price surge.
  • Arthur Hayes stated in an interview that over 90% of his net worth is in Bitcoin, leading the hosts to conclude many prominent 'shitcoiners' are actually Bitcoin maximalists using altcoins to accumulate more Bitcoin.
  • Zach from BPI notes Tether's new self-custodial wallet is chain-agnostic and offers first-class Bitcoin and Lightning support, which he sees as a pragmatic step to onboard Tether users to Bitcoin.
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Adoption (1)

  • Seth and Marty made a bet on whether MicroStrategy will hold over or under 1 million Bitcoin by June 15th, with Seth taking the under and Marty taking the over. MicroStrategy currently holds about 780,000 Bitcoin.

Protocol (3)

  • Matt expresses a tinfoil-hat view that pressure for a quantum-related protocol change could be used to disenfranchise open-source developers and split the community, with institutions likely to push a fork that freezes legacy coins under the guise of an upgrade.
  • Odell highlights a new 'quantum-safe Bitcoin' proposal that uses existing consensus rules, requiring about $200 of GPU compute to create a safe address but making transactions non-standard. He likes that it provides an opt-in path without a soft fork.
  • Marty points out that Satoshi chose the libsecp256k1 cryptographic library because it lacked hard-coded constants that could hide a backdoor, arguing that blindly following NIST-approved standards for quantum resistance could introduce new vulnerabilities.

Iran (1)

  • The Human Rights Foundation reported Iran's regime has ordered the seizure of assets from over 100 citizens abroad amid an internet blackout exceeding 43 days, a situation Zach argues makes Bitcoin the ideal tool for moving value without trust.

Society (1)

  • All hosts express concern and hope for the well-being of Preston Pysh, who has disappeared from public view without explanation in recent weeks.

Nostr (1)

  • Odell highlights the Hamster project, which adds reticulum/LoRa mesh networking to Nostr for offline communication and zaps, as a critical tool for environments like Iran with extended internet blackouts.

1300! | Bitcoin NewsApr 15

  • Senator Elizabeth Warren expressed concern to Elon Musk about X Money, citing potential risks to consumers, national security, and financial stability. Warren highlighted X's operational track record and X Money's offer of up to 6% APY, surpassing the federal funds rate.
  • Pakistan's State Bank lifted a seven-year ban on banking access for crypto firms, effective immediately, allowing licensed Virtual Asset Service Providers (VASPs) to open accounts. This follows the passage of the Virtual Asset Act of 2026, establishing the PVARA regulatory body.
  • MicroStrategy's STRC ATM accumulated $2.74 billion in volume over two trading sessions, absorbing an estimated 29,914 Bitcoin. This volume more than doubled the previous week's total of 13,927 Bitcoin, indicating significant investor interest ahead of the ex-dividend date.
  • The Trump family-backed World Liberty Financial (WLFI) proposed unlocking 62.3 billion WLFI governance tokens, previously locked indefinitely and without transferability. This move follows a controversy where WLFI used 5 billion of its tokens as collateral to borrow $75 million USD.
  • The International Monetary Fund (IMF) warned that global public debt could reach 100% of global GDP by 2029 under current trends, driven by rising defense spending and contributions from the US and China. This scenario implies entire economic output would go to debt servicing.
  • The IMF's debt warning strengthens Bitcoin's long-term appeal as a haven asset, being decentralized and outside traditional finance. Historical precedents like the 2013 Cyprus banking crisis and early 2023 US regional banking turmoil saw Bitcoin rally during TradFi stress.
  • Bitcoin is currently trading at $74,100 with a market capitalization of $1.48 trillion and a total supply of 20,016,073.03 BTC. The network hash rate stands at 698.6 exahashes per second, with average high-priority fees at 3 sats per vB.
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Startups (1)

  • Allbirds, a struggling shoe company, announced a pivot to AI computing infrastructure, rebranding as Newbird AI, after its stock tumbled 99% from its 2021 IPO. The company aims to provide GPU-as-a-service and AI-native cloud solutions.

Protocol (4)

  • Jameson Lopp and co-authors proposed BIP 361, a three-phase plan to freeze quantum-vulnerable Bitcoin on the network, including Satoshi's estimated 1.7 million BTC stash. This aims to prevent theft if quantum computers advance sufficiently, building on BIP 360's quantum-resistant addresses.
  • David Bennett questions the philosophical premise of BIP 361, arguing it makes unproven assumptions about quantum computing and falsely claims developers are doing nothing to address quantum resistance. He notes the proposal's existence disproves the latter point.
  • A new class of crypto treasury companies and DeFi protocols are forming around MicroStrategy's STRC stock, seeking Bitcoin exposure and its 11.5% monthly cash dividend. Firms like Saturn Credit and Apics are accumulating STRC, with nearly $200 million in tokenized STRC existing on Ethereum.
  • David Bennett maintains a personal stance of not owning Monero or Zcash, despite acknowledging them as the only other crypto assets he would consider besides Bitcoin. He declines to elaborate on his technical reasons.

AI & Tech (1)

  • Jacky Wrong developed 'Jim Opus,' a Claude Opus-style fine-tune built on Google's open-source Gemma 4, designed for local AI reasoning on consumer hardware. The larger variant, Jim Opus 4.26B, uses a mixture of experts architecture, activating only 4 billion parameters from a total of 26 billion for efficient local performance.